Chief Boss Chats with the Editor in Chief

Our very own Ethan Gordon, co-founder of Clean Boss, sat down with Duncan Garner on the Editor-in-Chief podcast this week. The episode, titled "Transforming Setback into Success," covers the real highs and lows of running a small business in New Zealand.

Ethan talks about what it's really like to go from being made redundant to building one of the most talked-about cleaning franchises in the country. No sugarcoating, no corporate buzzwords, just honest yarns about grit, hustle, and building something that actually works.

They cover:

• What pushed Ethan to launch Clean Boss
• The mental toll and real-world pressure of starting from scratch
• Lessons learned the hard way
• What it takes to do right by your clients and your crew
• Why being "just a cleaner" is one of the most underestimated roles out there

If you're into small business, resilience, or just want to hear someone speak plainly about what it takes to grow something real, this is well worth a listen.

Check out the full episode here: